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# Deep Dive: CHOCONOMIC$ | #PodSaveChocolate Ep51
- URL: https://thechocolatelife.com/deep-dive-choconomics-podsavechocolate-ep51/
- Published: 2024-06-17T16:40:26.000Z
- Updated: 2024-06-17T17:43:24.000Z
- Description: Episode 51 of #PodSaveChocolate takes a deep dive into the costs of setting up a new chocolate business with an emphasis on businesses that transform cocoa beans into bars and other products.
- Author: Clay Gordon
- Tags: PodSaveChocolate, Live Stream

**When and Where to Watch**

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The LIVE episode starts at 10:00 AM ****PDT**/****MST** (11:00 MDT, 12:00 CDT, 13:00 EDT), on Tuesday, June 18th, 2024.

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In an experiment, this is the first episode of PodSaveChocolate   
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[Deep Dive: CHOCONOMIC$ | #PodSaveChocolate Ep51Episode 51 OverviewThe recent run-up in cocoa prices and ongoing volatility are causing many craft chocolate makers and confectioners to look more closely at…![](https://www.youtube.com/s/desktop/a258f8cf/img/favicon_144x144.png)YouTube![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/totdWo1GtjQ/maxresdefault_live.jpg)](https://youtube.com/live/totdWo1GtjQ?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

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## **Episode 51 Overview**

The recent run-up in cocoa prices and ongoing volatility are causing many craft chocolate makers and confectioners to look more closely at business fundamentals. 

A recent AskTCL question from a member focused my attention on the counsel I would give to someone looking to start a craft chocolate business now. 

[Ask TCL - How Micro is Micro-batch?While we’re awaiting SSO to be completed, Ask TCL is where ChocolateLife members and others pose their questions to be answered by me – and other members.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/06/Firefly-Microbatchkitchen.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/ask-tcl-how-micro-is-microbatch/)

A ChocolateLife member asks about a definition for micro-batch.

And that reflection caused me to take a look at other articles I had written and episodes of PodSaveChocolate on this topic.

In this episode, we’ll be taking another deep dive look into economic factors that you have complete control over, ones you have partial control over, as well as the ones you don’t have any control over.

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### **More TCL Resources on This Topic**

[What Does It Really Cost To Set Up A Bean To Bar Chocolate Factory?There is a lot of interest in making chocolate from beans, both in-country and out. There are many challenges, not least of which is securing the necessary equipment. It’s easy and relatively inexpensive to find equipment for the kitchen hobbyist making 5lb-5kg batches. It’s also easy (but expensive)![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/wordpress/2020/12/ba2ea192-386d-46c2-a614-88ec1b00a467.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/what-does-it-really-cost-to-set-up-a-bean-to-bar-chocolate-factory/)

Originally published in 2011! There is some good community feedback so scroll down to the archived comment stream.

[Starting a Craft Chocolate Business: Top Tips | #PodSaveChocolateEpisode 31 of #PodSaveChocolate was inspired by a post in the r/chocolate subreddit. You never know where inspiration will strike!![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/03/Ep-031---startup-advice---Featured1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/starting-a-craft-chocolate-business-top-tips-podsavechocolate/)

A recent episode of PodSaveChocolate with a take on related topics.

[Gear Geek Deep Dive | #PodSaveChocolateEpisode 45 of #PodSaveChocolate does a deep geek dive into non-traditional gear chocolate makers and confectioners should take a look at.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/05/Ep-045---Gear-Geek-Deep-Dive---Featured1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/gear-geek-deep-dive-podsavechocolate/)

Another recent episode of PodSaveChocolate with a different take on related topics.

**Older Posts**

[AskTCL: Scaling UpA ChocolateLife member asked:![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2022/01/kai-gradert-HNx24Jy9esY-unsplashFeatured.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/asktcl-about-scaling-up/)

[The Cost of Scaling Up Production - What is Total Cost of Ownership?One of the oft-overlooked aspects of scaling up is taking a look at Total Cost of Ownership. A TCO calculation should not just look at CapEx – Capital Expenditure, or the cost of the machines – but also factor in loss factors, labor, rent, cost of energy, and financing and depreciation, among![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/wordpress/2020/12/UFwhpDnXE-Kr_NocpmQdQ.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/the-cost-of-scaling-up-production-what-is-total-cost-of-ownership/)

**Older Video Podcasts**

[TheChocolateLife::LIVE – Downscaling Chocolate Production Case StudyEpisode 70 streams Tue, Nov 29th from 12:00\~13:00 EST.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeTheChocolateWire![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2022/11/cafiesaOutsideFeatured1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live-downscaling-chocolate-production-case-study/)

[TheChocolateLife :: LIVE – Melangers Deep DiveEpisode 27 streaming LIVE worldwide on Friday, March 25th from 12:00 EDT.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/size/w256h256/2020/12/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2022/03/featuredImage_RomeoV1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live-melangers-deep-dive/)

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### **Questions?**

If you have questions, you can ask them live during the episode or, if you are a ChocolateLife member, you can ask them in the Comments below at any time.

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### **Episode Hashtags and Related Accounts to Follow**

#Chocononmics  
#cocoa #cacao #cacau  
#chocolate #chocolat #craftchocolate  
#PodSaveChocolate #PodSaveChoc  
#LaVidaCocoa #TheChocolateLife

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### **Future Episodes**

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****Friday, June 28th – AVPA Awards Show**  
Chocolates made at origin (in a producing country).

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****Friday, July 5th – World Chocolate Day Celebration**  
World Chocolate Day is Sunday, July 7th.

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****Tuesday, July 9th – Interview with David Nilsen, Bean to Barstool Podcast, Part 2**  
Part 1 will take place over on Bean to Barstool and will take a look at pairing beer and chocolate from the perspective of beer. Part 2 will take a look at pairing chocolate and beer from the perspective of chocolate.

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### **#PodSaveChocolate and #TheChocolateLifeLIVE Archives**

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