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# Getting Creative With Chocolate | #PodSaveChocolate Ep72
- URL: https://thechocolatelife.com/getting-creative-with-chocolate-podsavechocolate-ep72/
- Published: 2024-09-15T17:40:29.000Z
- Updated: 2024-09-18T19:14:57.000Z
- Description: Episode 72 of #PodSaveChocolate is an exploration of my creative process through the lens of classic, modern, and even a viral Internet recipe that all have one thing in common – chocolate as an ingredient. Updated to include flavor suppliers mentioned during the episode.
- Author: Clay Gordon
- Tags: PodSaveChocolate, Live Stream

**When and Where to Watch**

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The LIVE episode starts at 10:00 AM ****PDT**/****MST** (11:00 MDT, 12:00 CDT, 13:00 EDT), on Tuesday, September 17th, 2024.

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## **Episode 72 Overview**

When I talk with people who describe themselves as bean-to-bar chocolate makers, one of my conversational gambits is to get them to think of themselves as chocolate makers and then ask them to ask themselves, “What can I make with the chocolate I make?” I have talked about this extensively in episodes of PodSaveChocolate and TheChocolateLifeLIVE.

When I approach using chocolate as an ingredient in pastry and baking as well as more generally in a culinary context I use a variety of techniques to rethink how chocolate (and cocoa powder) can be used – reimagining the end product. 

In this episode of PodSaveChocolate I am going to draw connections between how I approach pairing chocolate with other foods and how I approach using chocolate as an ingredient.

To set the stage – I have no formal training as a chocolatier or pastry chef. Everything I am going to share in this episode is from my interactions with world-class chocolatiers and pastry chefs, judges, instructors, and other journalists.

#### History

• World Pastry Forum, World and National Pastry Team Championships.  
• Lesson learned from Albert Adria.  
• A key lesson from Molecular Gastronomy.  
• **How Chocolate Gets Its Taste* lectures.  
• Not all representations of a flavor are the same (Dominique & Cindy Duby).  
• A conversation with Jacques Torres  
• Betty Koster & Kees Raat (pairing chocolate & cheese).

#### Some Applications

• Classic French sauces – buerre “blanc” and Hollandaise.  
• Cherry/chocolate amuse.  
• Balsamic Condimento.  
• Parmesan/cocoa tuile.  
• Chocolate layer cake.  
• **The*. **Best*. Baklava. **Ever*.  
• Improving salted butter caramel – possible?  
• Rethinking chocolate fondue.  
• Can I improve the viral scrambled egg chocolate pudding recipe.

#### Reflections

• One do-over.  
• Innovation is not a solitary process.  
• There is **always* the possibility to do something new with something classic.  
• Taste everything.  
• Challenge yourself.  
• The Pairing Game.

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### **Links** & Resources / Flavor Suppliers

[Amoretti : Ingredients, Extracts, Flavors, Mixes, Syrups and more!We make the ultimate flavorings and ingredients for your pastry, savory and beverage creations. Perfect for home, bar and restaurant use. Made in California.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/amoretti_favicon_32x32.jpg)Amoretti![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/no-image-large.gif)](https://amoretti.com/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

[Flavor and Fragrance Manufacturer | Carmi FlavorsCarmi Flavors manufactures flavors, fragrances, and specialty products for the entire food and beverage industry.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/favicon.png)Carmi Flavors![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/home-banner-english.jpg)](https://www.carmiflavors.com/us/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

[Nielsen-Massey Vanillas - The Finest Pure Vanilla Extracts and FlavorsNielsen-Massey Vanillas offers the finest pure vanilla extracts, pastes and flavors worldwide and is the preferred choice of bakers and chefs.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/apple-touch-icon.png)Nielsen-Massey VanillasCHRISTOPHE RULL![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/px)](https://nielsenmassey.com/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

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### **Questions?**

If you have questions or want to comment, you can do so live during the episode or, if you are a ChocolateLife member, you can add them in the Comments below at ***any*** time.

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### **Episode Hashtags and Related Accounts to Follow**

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### **Future Episodes**

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****Tuesday, September 24th**  
Midwest Craft Chocolate Festival Preview

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### **#PodSaveChocolate and #TheChocolateLifeLIVE Archives**

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[PodSaveChocolateHosted by Clay Gordon, the creator and moderator of TheChocolateLife.com, #PodSaveChocolate covers a wide variety of topics in the worlds of cocoa and chocolate. The video versions of this podcast are hosted and archived on YouTube, LinkedIn, and Facebook. Click on the PodSaveChocolate link in the top nav on TheChocolateLife for the links to the post accompanying each episode.![](https://pnc.st/static/img/256x256.png)Pinecast![](https://social.pinecast.net/preview_card/podcasts/covers/d3730dca-0711-4720-9ef3-3b18918c1f0d/TagImageBanner-PodSaveChocTagFinal_1920x1080.jpg?title=PodSaveChocolate)](https://pnc.st/s/podsavechocolate?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

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