> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://thechocolatelife.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Examining Tony’s Open Chain: Is This a Good Use of AI? | #PodSaveChocolate Ep 126 - URL: https://thechocolatelife.com/is-this-a-good-use-of-ai-podsavechocolate-ep-126/ - Published: 2025-06-15T21:05:47.000Z - Updated: 2025-06-18T20:03:28.000Z - Description: Episode 126 of #PodSaveChocolate features an exploration of using Gemini to summarize Tony’s Open Chain Report for the 2023-2024 reporting year. Is this a good use of AI? What can we learn from Gemini’s analysis? What are the limits? Is anything missing? Can Gemini be trusted? [updated] - Author: Clay Gordon - Tags: PodSaveChocolate, Live Stream, #Footnote **When and Where to Watch** 🗓️ The stream airs LIVE at 11:00 ****PDT/MST** (12:00 MDT, 1:00 CDT, 2:00 EDT), on Tuesday, June 17th, 2025. Links below to watch LIVE and to view the archived episode. 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In that episode, I mentioned I had used Google’s Gemini AI tool to do some “Deep Research” on Tony’s Open Chain Report for the 2023-2024 reporting year. [Exploring Tony’s “Open” Chain | #PodSaveChocolate Ep 124Episode 124 of #PodSaveChocolate is an exploration of Tony’s Open Chain, searching for answers to, among other questions, “How ‘Open’ is Open?”![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-159.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/Ep-124-TonysOpenChain---Featured1920x1080-1-1.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/exploring-tonys-open-chain-podsavechocolate-ep-124/) You can download the all of the Open Chain reports [from this page](https://www.tonysopenchain.com/reporting/toc-impact-reports?ref=thechocolatelife.com). --- ### **But, before I jump into the main topic ...** On the Saturday before the Tuesday this is going live, it occurred to me to wonder if I could trust one of the graphics in Tony’s 2023-2024 Annual Fair Report (AFR). > Specifically, the graphic on P167. ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2025/06/TCAnnualFairReport_2023-2024_AFR-p167Cropped.jpg) It turns out ***the numbers don’t add up** and the stack plots ***aren’t** drawn to scale. The text in the KPI says “The amount of premium paid \[per tonne \] to reach “the \[LIRP\[\[1\]\]”\]. Also, note that while the €uro amount of the premiums is listed, there are neither totals nor percentages shown. (I added those in – *with caveats*.) \[\[1\]\]: What the LIRP was during any of the four crop seasons shown is not mentioned on this page. ***Note that*** the LIRP is not represented along the vertical axis of the graphic nor is there any separation between the 2022/23 numbers and the 2023/24 numbers\[\[2\]\]. I mention this because the 2023/24 LIRP may have been different from what it was in 2023/23, and neither are shown on the page for context; a critical datum is missing, making the 2022/23 numbers not directly comparable with the 2023/24 numbers, which I am confident is part of the design brief. > **“If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.”**\[\[3\]\] \[\[2\]\]: So I added horizontal reference lines and numbers to the vertical axis and added vertical lines to separate the 2022/23 numbers from the 2023/24 numbers. \[\[3\]\]: Widely attributed (but now considered to be *mis*attributed) to William Claude Dukenfeld, more widely known as W.C. Fields. The full quote is anecdotal and is attributed to a “Bill” in a larger conversation, so William/Bill may be the source of the confusion. ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2025/06/TCAnnualFairReport_2023-2024_AFR-p167Annotated_v2.jpg) My annotated version of the page. This is v2 – the vertical line separating the 22/23 from the 23/24 years was originally in the wrong place. I used Photoshop to do the annotation. I calculated the height of the €2200 LIRP line after counting the number of pixels from the €0 baseline to the top of the CdI €2268 farmgate price bar to establish the scale. The CdI main-crop 2023/24 numbers total €2200, but the plot falls below the €2200 reference line. The CdI mid-crop 2022/23 numbers total €2198, but the total height of the stack is greater than the height of the main-crop 2023/24 stack. > From this one example, it’s clear to me that NONE of the graphics in a similar format in this AFR should be trusted to accurately depict the numbers that are used to generate them. This also warrants taking a retrospective look at every graph in every AFR. --- ### **Now back to the main point for the episode ...** I uploaded just the 2023-2024 Open Chain report and asked Gemini one question: ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2025/06/GeminiOverview-1280x.jpg) It’s nice to know that Gemini’s input parser is tolerant of misspellings – deliberate in this case. The rest of this episode is going to explore the results of Gemini’s “thinking” by evaluating the report, which you can download (MS .docx). [TonysOpenChainTechnologies-GeminiDeepResearchReportUnannotated: Approximately 4500 words / 12 pages. TonysOpenChainTechnologies-GeminiDeepResearchReport.docx6 MBdownload-circle](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/files/2025/06/TonysOpenChainTechnologies-GeminiDeepResearchReport.docx "Download") --- ### **Additional Links and Resources** [Tony’s Open Chain Interactive ReportGenerated by Google’s Gemini from the 2023-2024 annual report.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-163.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/Ep-126-Gemini-AI-SY1280x720-1.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/tonys-open-chain-interactive-report/) The CSS for the embedded file was interfering with the default template CSS so I moved the report HTML to its own page. [UPDATED: TheChocolateLife :: LIVE – Deconstructing “Transparency” ReportsEpisode 39 streams LIVE worldwide from Brooklyn, NY from 12:00 EDT on Friday, May 6th.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-160.png)The Chocolate LifeTheChocolateWire![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/vika-strawberrika-GfzD8VEQ3P4-unsplash-FeaturedImage1920x1080-1.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live-deconstructing-transparency-reports/) 2022: Uncommon, Taza, Dandelion, Tony’s, Chocolate Scorecard [UPDATED – TheChocolateLife :: LIVE – Constructing Transparent Transparency ReportsEpisode 40 streams LIVE worldwide from Brooklyn, NY starting at 12:00 EDT on Tuesday, May 10th.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-161.png)The Chocolate LifeTheChocolateWire![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/wilhelm-gunkel-y9zdJUOoPpU-unsplash_Featured1920x1080-1.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live-constructing-transparent-transparency-reports/) --- ## **Questions?** If you have questions or want to comment, you can do so during the episode or, if you are a ChocolateLife member, you can add them in the Comments below at ***any*** time. --- ### **Episode Hashtags and Socials** #AI #Gemini #Tonys #TonysChocolonely #TonysOpenChain #cocoa #cacao #cacau #chocolate #chocolat #craftchocolate #PodSaveChoc #PSC #LaVidaCocoa #TheChocolateLife --- ### **Future Episodes** 🗓️ No episodes were scheduled at the time this post was published. --- ### **#PodSaveChocolate and #TheChocolateLifeLIVE Archives** **To read an archived post** and find the links to watch archived episodes, click on one of the bookmark cards, below. 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