> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://thechocolatelife.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Rowan Jacobsen’s Wild Chocolate | #PodSaveChocolate Ep78 - URL: https://thechocolatelife.com/rowan-jacobsens-wild-chocolate-podsavechocolate-ep78/ - Published: 2024-10-11T22:19:56.000Z - Updated: 2024-10-17T13:29:36.000Z - Description: Episode 78 of #PodSaveChocolate is an interview with Rowan Jacobsen about his new book, “Wild Chocolate: Across the Americas in Search of Cacao’s Soul.” [ Updated on Oct 17th with added links. ] - Author: Clay Gordon - Tags: PodSaveChocolate, Live Stream **When and Where to Watch** 🗓️ The LIVE episode starts at 10:00 AM ****PDT**/****MST** (11:00 MDT, 12:00 CDT, 13:00 EDT), on Tuesday, October 15th, 2024. 💬 ****Join the conversation LIVE!** Links to watch/comment LIVE – or to view the archived episode – on YouTube, LinkedIn, and Facebook. Click on this (shareable) link to watch on YouTube. Please subscribe (free!) to the [@PodSaveChocolate YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/@podsavechocolate/featured?ref=thechocolatelife.com), like this video, comment, and share to help grow the #PSC community. [Clay Gordon on LinkedIn: #podsavechocolate #lavidacocoa #thechocolatelife #cacao #cocoa #cacau…Episode 78 of #PodSaveChocolate is an interview with Rowan Jacobsen about his new book, “Wild Chocolate: Across the Americas in Search of Cacao’s Soul.” I…![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/al2o9zrvru7aqj8e1x2rzsrca)LinkedInClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/c45fy346jw096z9pbphyyhdz7)](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/claygordon%5Fpodsavechocolate-lavidacocoa-thechocolatelife-activity-7250630196586782720-SJvF?utm%5Fsource=share&utm%5Fmedium=member%5Fdesktop) This ****LINKEDIN** link is shareable. [Rowan Jacobsen’s Wild Chocolate | #PodSaveChocolate Ep78Other event by TheChocolateLife on Tuesday, October 15 2024![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/aGT3gskzWBf.ico)#PodSaveChocolate Ep78![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/media)](https://fb.me/e/1QbeAJbpu?ref=thechocolatelife.com) This ****FACEBOOK** link is also shareable. --- ## **Episode 78 Overview** I first crossed paths with Rowan back in 2008 when our books were finalists in the International Association of Culinary Professionals’ Book Awards. (Spoiler alert: Neither of us carried our category – Technical/Reference.) I was in Bolivia twice in 2010, first in January and then in November. While our paths did not cross that year, an article Rowan wrote on the wild cacao – *cacao silvestre* – of the Bolivian Amazon was published that same year: [Heart of Dark ChocolateBeer is the Dom Perignon of the Amazon. The surest way to get everyone’s attention is to show up with an obscene amount. We had everyone’s attention.![](https://www.outsideonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/favicon-194x194-1.png)Outside Onlinesperkins-pom![](https://www.outsideonline.com/wp-content/uploads/migrated-images_parent/migrated-images_40/WCMDEV_151516_bolivian-amazon.jpg?width=1200)](https://www.outsideonline.com/food/heart-dark-chocolate/?ref=thechocolatelife.com) I remember hearing about the article from Volker Lehmann, the owner of the Hacienda Tranquilidad, the source of the wild Beniano beans used in Felchlin’s *Cru Sauvage*, and our mutual in-country host and guide. [Cacao Boliviano with Volker Lehmann | #PodSaveChocolateEpisode 20 of #PodSaveChocolate features an update to my discussions of Bolivian cacao in a new interview with friend and colleague Volker Lehmann.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/Ep-020---CacaoBoliviano---Featured1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/cacao-boliviano-with-volker-lehmann-podsavechocolate/) My interview with Volker on February 16th. ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/01-AnAncientWildCacaoTree.JPG) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/02-CollectingWildCacaoPods.JPG) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/03-APileOfFreshlyHarvestedPodsOnTheForestFloor.JPG) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/04-SelectionOfWildBolivianCacaoPods.JPG) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/05-AWildPodInTheHand.JPG) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/07-ItsAFamilyAffair.JPG) Some photos I took during my visit to the **Hacienda Tranquilidad* in 2010. Rowan and I have kept in touch since, and I had the chance to have lunch with Rowan in Vermont when I was there on a family holiday in, maybe, 2013 or so. Our paths crossed again when Rowan wrote me saying he was going to be in NYC to do some production on a new podcast series he was working on – on chocolate. We spent the better part of a day in Brooklyn and Manhattan dodging raindrops, visiting three chocolate shops, and discussing many aspects of how to buy chocolate. [OBSESSIONS: Wild Chocolate | iHeartForget Willy Wonka and those heart-shaped Valentine’s boxes. OBSESSIONS: Wild Chocolate. is a totally different beast. Join host Rowan Jacobson as he elbows his way through the rain forest, crash lands into cocaine flyaways, and avoids a few too many anaconda, tagging along with modern-day Lara Crofts as they try to get their hands on some of the world’s most ancient– and expensive– cacao.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/apple-touch-icon.png)iHeart![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcHJvZ3JhbXMvZTczYzk5OGUtNmU2MC00MzJmLTg2MTAtYWUyMTAxNDBjNWIxLzg1NzFjMDNiLWJlNTItNDcyYS05YzgyLWFlZjMwMGZmMzQ5ZC9pbWFnZS5qcGc_dD0xNjg3Nzk1OTcyJnNpemU9TGFyZ2U)](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-obsessions-wild-chocolate-103468390/?ref=thechocolatelife.com) In this episode of #PodSaveChocolate we will be talking about his new book: ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/WildChocolateCover-Medium.jpeg) #### Wild Chocolate: Across the Americas in Search of Cacao’s Soul Just released! The publication date was October 8th. [Buy on Amazon (affiliate link)](https://amzn.to/3U1C4Ow?ref=thechocolatelife.com) ![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2024/10/1491_CharlesMann-Cover-Medium.jpeg) #### 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus Rowan and I discussed this book in the livestream. If you are interested in knowing more about the Beni region of Bolivia, the chocolatales, and other facts about the landscape of the Americas before the arrival of Colombus – natural and man-mediated – this is the book for you. I can also recommend [****1493**](https://amzn.to/3zS46p5?ref=thechocolatelife.com) by the same author. 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