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# Where Chocolate Grows | #PodSaveChocolate Ep 125
- URL: https://thechocolatelife.com/where-chocolate-grows-podsavechocolate-ep-125/
- Published: 2025-06-11T20:13:15.000Z
- Updated: 2025-06-13T19:38:06.000Z
- Description: Episode 125 of #PodSaveChocolate features an interview with three of the authors of the book Onde Cresce o Chocolate (Where Chocolate Grows). [updated to include photo and link mentioned]
- Author: Clay Gordon
- Tags: PodSaveChocolate, Live Stream

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## **Episode 125 Overview**

I first visited Brazil in 2017, spending a short time in São Paulo before traveling to Ilhéus for the Chocolat Bahia festival.

> I still have a valid – through October, 2027 – business visa, and I am hoping to return before it expires. (Nudge nudge wink wink.)

In all, I have visited Brazil a total of four times. Twice in 2022 (Pará during one trip; Ilhéus and SP the other) and in 2020 (SP), catching one of the last flights out of Guarulhos before the border closed.

[Brazil PhotoblogFollowing up on the Clubhouse room “Origins: Brazil” on July 12th with featured guests Arcelia Gallardo and Rogerio Kamei. \[Updated May 24 2025 to fix spelling and grammar. \]![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-148.png)The Chocolate LifeClay Gordon![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/feetOfACacaoDancerFeaturedImage-1.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/brazil-photoblog/)

Some photographs from my trip in 2017, with links to other posts.

During those visits, and at festivals in the US (NYC, Seattle) and Europe (Paris, Porto), I have had the great good fortune to meet with many members of the chocolate community, especially the Brazilian bean-to-bar community, which is *incredibly* vibrant.

Brazil’s past and present, with respect to cacau and chocolate culture, are *very* different from its neighbors in South America, and the differences, I suspect, are not *wholly* due to language, but to a wide range of other influences both internal and international.

![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/2025/06/OndeCresce_Authors.jpg)

L:R – Mariana Bueno, Claudia Gamba, Gislaine Gallette, Arcelia Gallardo, Juliana Aquino, Luciana Monteiro, Zelia Frangioni.

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### **Authors appearing in this episode**

[Baianí ChocolatesDa Bahia para o mundo. Os chocolates do Baianí tem sido constantemente reconhecidos internacionalmente por sua qualidade.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/apple-touch-icon-14.png)Baianí Chocolates![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/android-chrome-512x512-1-1.png)](https://www.baiani.com.br/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

Juliana Aquino

[Mestiço Chocolates - Da Nossa Floresta à Barra - From Tree to BarMais que Bean to Bar - Chocolates Tree to Bar com cacau de produção própria.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/logo-266822236-1692708377-16aef81a21385df1677efb12b46062041692708377.ico)Mestiço Chocolates - Da Nossa Floresta à Barra - From Tree to BarMestiço Chocolates![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/logo-1340443572-1692708376-8f4c88ff585a3f887c8c7cfe0692bc031692708376.png)](https://mesticochocolates.com/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

Claudia Gamba

[Mission Chocolate<p>🏆O chocolate mais premiado do Brasil | 🍫 Fazemos chocolates que não existem | LOJA e CAFÉ ☕️ R.California 808, Brooklin SP</p>![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/apple-touch-icon-13.png)Mission Chocolate![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/11_2_2_220_capa.png)](https://www.missionchocolate.com.br/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

Arcelia Gallardo

[Dois Rios and a Chocolate BarDoes storytelling impact the desire or curiosity to taste a bar? Oh, yeah!![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-157.png)The Chocolate LifeThe Archivist![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/Two-Rivers-by-Mission-Chocolate_Featured1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/two-rivers-and-a-chocolate-bar/)

The post by Zelia F mentioned in the episode.

### **Co-authors *not* in this episode**

[Ara Cacao • Especialistas em chocolate![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/6033fdfafed0bc3e974f33fe_aracacao-favicon-256x256.png)Jú Arléo Chocolates![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/602d66bdd1fb456313d0a09e_foto-hero.jpg)](https://www.aracacao.com.br/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

Luciana Monteiro

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****Zelia Frangioni –** [Chocolatras Online](https://chocolatrasonline.com.br/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

[Gallette ChocolatesChocolates Bean to Bar (produzidos da amêndoa de cacau até a barra) com sabores exclusivos e deliciosos, feitos 100% com cacau brasileiro e dentro…![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/logo2019-2-2-skhiji.png)Gallette Chocolates![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/logos-de-clientes-5oc1vaysf4.png)](https://www.gallette.com.br/?ref=thechocolatelife.com)

Gislaine Gallette

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****Mariana Bueno**, Professora Doutora na Universidade de São Paulo  
Co-author **Chocolates Bean to Bar e a COVID-19: uma análise dos impactos da pandemia na gestão de empresas de chocolates artesanais brasileiras (2022).* ([****ResearchGate**](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361077241%5FChocolates%5FBean%5Fto%5FBar%5Fe%5Fa%5FCOVID-19%5Fuma%5Fanalise%5Fdos%5Fimpactos%5Fda%5Fpandemia%5Fna%5Fgestao%5Fde%5Fempresas%5Fde%5Fchocolates%5Fartesanais%5Fbrasileiras?ref=thechocolatelife.com))

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[TheChocolateLife::LIVE – Brazilian Chocolate TastingStreaming worldwide from NYC starting at 12:00 EDT on Friday August 12th.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-147.png)The Chocolate LifeTheChocolateWire![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/victor-rutka-VpL2gr9HI1A-unsplashFeaturedTitled1920x1080.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live-brazilian-chocolate-tasting/)

[TheChocolateLife :: LIVE w/ Arcelia GallardoEpisode #1 - the OG ChocolateLife::LIVE –streamed Friday, November 19th at 12 noon EST.![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/icon/JR_Pods60x60FavIconCutoutButtons-145.png)The Chocolate LifeTheChocolateWire![](https://thechocolatelife.com/content/images/thumbnail/FeaturedImage1920x1080-3.jpg)](https://thechocolatelife.com/thechocolatelife-live/)

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