Where Flavor Wheels Fail & A Live Tasting | #PSC 234

Where Flavor Wheels Fail & A Live Tasting  | #PSC 234

OVERVIEW: Episode 234 of #PodSaveChocolate takes another look at flavor wheels and the OG mistakes that all modern wheels copy. PLUS a live tasting of four – new to me - bars.

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Episode 234

If you’ve been following PodSaveChocolate and TheChocolateLife::LIVE, you know I think about flavor a lot. Most recently my thoughts are part of a larger research effort to understand how chocolate is classified compared with beer, wine, spirits, coffee, tea, and cheese. (In this grouping, chocolate and cheese are the most alike.)

I have become increasingly convinced that one thing holding chocolate appreciation and connoisseurship back is that there is no widely accepted framework for thinking about chocolate flavor that is based on first principles.

Many of the popular approaches to visualizing taste have been influenced by the wine wheel introduced by Ann Noble in 1984. Beer, spirits, and cheese (not shown here) and coffee and chocolate (shown in this post) have built visualizations from the wine foundation.

I will be exploring the OG wine flavor classification “mistakes” and how they have been replicated across other domains, as I taste four chocolate bars:

  1. Wildwood Chocolate’s Fennel Pollen Caramel
  2. Manoa Chocolate’s Manakō Mango (from the Flavors of Hawai'i series)
  3. Dandelion Chocolate’s 70% Zorzal Comunitario
  4. And ... the just released Askinosie 65% Dark + Sichuan Chili Oil collaBARation with Fly By Jing.
The first three bars are available at a local bakery; the Askinosie was sent to me. I will not have tasted any of these bars in advance of the episode.

Representative Wheels – Flavor Viz Falling Short


Alternatives to Wheels


Visualizing Flavor | #PSC 220
OVERVIEW: Episode 220 of #PodSaveChocolate takes a look at flavor visualizations, how they may influence the way flavors are perceived, and more. Are some presentation formats better than others? Should some entire approaches be deprecated? [updated]
Updated: Chocolate Education, Evaluation & Competition Judging | #PSC 218
OVERVIEW: Episode 218 of #PodSaveChocolate takes an in-depth look at the IICCT and ICAs through the lens of educating people about chocolate, evaluating chocolate, and judging competitions, in comparison with beer and other beverages and foods. [ Updated to include commentary/notes. ]
Before the Judging Can Begin | #PSC 217
OVERVIEW: Episode 217 of #PodSaveChocolate takes a look at typology, classification, and taxonomy – and how the lack of a formal, consistent, and defensible vocabulary is a gaping hole in how chocolate is taught and judged. Then ... what can be done to address the challenges?
Evaluating Chocolate: the What, the Why, and the How | #PSC 215
OVERVIEW: Episode 215 of #PodSaveChocolate takes a look back, and forward, at how chocolate is evaluated – and asks the question, “Have we been doing it wrong all these years?”

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